Elder Cults - Revision history

Gershon: The Gnostics as a worked instance of the naming problem

2026-09-05T22:51:19Z

The Gnostics as a worked instance of the naming problem

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	== See also ==		== See also ==

			[[Gnostics]] are recorded as ''a part of'' one of these, and that entry cannot say which one, or what the phrase means. The problem is the same problem this entry describes and is worth reading as a worked instance of it.

	[[Concealment]] offers a mechanism for why this entry cannot count, name or document them: not secrecy but an art of not being noticed, which leaves no absence to find. That entry also notes how conveniently this excuses every gap in our record.		[[Concealment]] offers a mechanism for why this entry cannot count, name or document them: not secrecy but an art of not being noticed, which leaves no absence to find. That entry also notes how conveniently this excuses every gap in our record.

Gershon: A mechanism for the invisibility

2026-09-05T22:36:08Z

A mechanism for the invisibility

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	\| wanted = A name. Any name, from anyone, with anything attached to it. Evidence that two of the encounters we hold involved the same body.		\| wanted = A name. Any name, from anyone, with anything attached to it. Evidence that two of the encounters we hold involved the same body.
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			== See also ==

			[[Concealment]] offers a mechanism for why this entry cannot count, name or document them: not secrecy but an art of not being noticed, which leaves no absence to find. That entry also notes how conveniently this excuses every gap in our record.

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	[[Category:Reference entries]]		[[Category:Reference entries]]

Gershon: The name is ours, the plural is load-bearing

2026-09-05T22:12:23Z

The name is ours, the plural is load-bearing

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-Elder Cults were, are and will be. They exist as pillars of our understanding of the Dark. Many upstart cults claim some mythological figure as their founder to stir some interest in their pretentious book club. However these Elder Cults can trace their lineage to those very real figures and their heroic deeds.
+{{Doctrine|
-(Order of the Magi of Zoroaster, etc)
+They have names. We do not have them. Everything below is what can be said about bodies that will not identify themselves and can only be distinguished by their effects.
-== See also ==
+Elder Cults were, are and will be. They exist as pillars of our understanding of the Dark. Many upstart cults claim some mythological figure as their founder to stir some interest in their pretentious book club. However these Elder Cults can trace their lineage to those very real figures and their heroic deeds. {{R|inherited}}
-Their opposition to [[Inoculation]] is recorded there, and it is on grounds of inheritance rather than principle.
+That is the inherited paragraph and it is the wiki's oldest position on them. Note what it does: it asserts the distinction between real lineage and pretended lineage, and offers no way to tell which is which. {{R|contested|note=the paragraph states the claim these bodies make about themselves, in their own terms, as though it were a finding}}
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Gershon: Linked to The Instructions, where this cult's creed is set out

2026-09-05T21:44:16Z

Linked to The Instructions, where this cult's creed is set out

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	== See also ==		== See also ==

			Their opposition to [[Inoculation]] is recorded there, and it is on grounds of inheritance rather than principle.

	Their creed, and their claim to hold the oldest surviving copy of [[The Instructions]], is set out there.		Their creed, and their claim to hold the oldest surviving copy of [[The Instructions]], is set out there.

	[[Category:Cults]]		[[Category:Cults]]

Gershon: Linked to The Instructions, where this cult's creed is set out

2026-09-05T21:22:51Z

Linked to The Instructions, where this cult's creed is set out

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	(Order of the Magi of Zoroaster, etc)		(Order of the Magi of Zoroaster, etc)

			== See also ==

			Their creed, and their claim to hold the oldest surviving copy of [[The Instructions]], is set out there.

	[[Category:Cults]]		[[Category:Cults]]

Gershon: Filed into the category scheme

2026-09-05T12:03:23Z

Filed into the category scheme

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	(Order of the Magi of Zoroaster, etc)		(Order of the Magi of Zoroaster, etc)

	~~== See also ==~~

	~~Their creed, and their claim to hold the oldest surviving copy of [[The Instructions]], is set out there.~~

	[[Category:Cults]]		[[Category:Cults]]

Gershon: Linked to The Instructions, where this cult's creed is set out

2026-09-05T12:00:35Z

Linked to The Instructions, where this cult's creed is set out

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	(Order of the Magi of Zoroaster, etc)		(Order of the Magi of Zoroaster, etc)

			== See also ==

			Their creed, and their claim to hold the oldest surviving copy of [[The Instructions]], is set out there.

			[[Category:Cults]]

Gershon at 13:57, 10 November 2023

2023-11-10T13:57:02Z

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	Elder Cults were, are and will be. They exist as pillars of our understanding of the Dark. Many upstart cults claim some mythological figure as their founder to stir some interest in their pretentious book club. However these Elder Cults can trace their lineage to those very real figures and their heroic deeds.		Elder Cults were, are and will be. They exist as pillars of our understanding of the Dark. Many upstart cults claim some mythological figure as their founder to stir some interest in their pretentious book club. However these Elder Cults can trace their lineage to those very real figures and their heroic deeds.

	(Magi of Zoroaster, etc)		(Order of the Magi of Zoroaster, etc)

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2023-11-10T13:45:48Z

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Elder Cults were, are and will be. They exist as pillars of our understanding of the Dark. Many upstart cults claim some mythological figure as their founder to stir some interest in their pretentious book club. However these Elder Cults can trace their lineage to those very real figures and their heroic deeds.

(Magi of Zoroaster, etc)