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Beings of pure libido. They seek out the sexually frustrated and sexually obsessed to feed on their psyche | {{Entity | ||
| name = Succubus | |||
| class = [[Others|Other]] — displaced; by most readings of the [[Daemon]] class | |||
| dwells = close, and only where it has been admitted | |||
| feeds on = libido; the psyche of the sexually frustrated and the sexually obsessed | |||
| approach = the matching described under [[Affliction]]; rarely anything as formal as a bargain | |||
| first account = ancient and continuous, in more traditions than we can list | |||
| consensus = Real, common, and the clearest instance of the matching principle we hold. Whether it is a distinct class or a daemon of one appetite is unsettled. | |||
| tags = {{R|contested}} {{R|inherited}} | |||
}} | |||
Beings of pure libido. They seek out the sexually frustrated and sexually obsessed to feed on their psyche. {{R|inherited}} | |||
The inherited line is short and correct. What it does not say is that the selectivity in it is the entire point. | |||
== The clearest case of the matching == | |||
[[Affliction]] holds that Others pair with people by '''kind''', not by severity or by opportunity, and succubi are the sharpest evidence for it we have. They are not reported around the grieving, the enraged, the despairing or the merely lonely. They are reported around people whose difficulty is specifically sexual: the obsessed, the frustrated, those fixated on the organs themselves rather than on any person. {{R|unverified}} | |||
A thing that fed on suffering in general would not sort like that. This one sorts, consistently, across traditions that had no contact with each other. {{R|contested}} | |||
Whether that makes it a distinct class or simply a [[Daemon|daemon]] of one appetite — the Varieties section of that entry says there are as many kinds of daemon as there are afflictions — is unsettled here and probably unimportant. The behaviour is the same and so is the mechanism. {{R|contested|note=we may be maintaining a separate entry for a thing our own taxonomy says is a subtype}} | |||
== The invitation == | |||
Succubi are rarely described as bargaining, which distinguishes them from [[Djinn|djinn]] and [[Faeries|fey]] and makes them worse rather than better. {{R|contested}} | |||
The [[Others|grievance]] holds that nothing from the Dark can take the material world, only be admitted to it — so something is being admitted here, and there is no negotiation, no terms and no moment anyone can point to. What is being obtained is the yes described under [[Affliction]]: given continuously, without any recognisable act of agreement, by someone in a condition where withholding it is not available. Obsession is not a state in which a person is choosing. {{R|unverified}} | |||
This is why the entry sits under [[:Category:Afflictions]] as well as under Others. Everything about a succubus encounter is the affliction mechanism running without the decorative apparatus of a deal. {{R|firsthand|by=Gershon}} | |||
== On writing about this at all == | |||
The ordinary account of everything on this page is compulsion, shame, isolation and the ordinary miseries of a person whose sexuality has become the whole of their inner life. That account requires no Other, explains the full record, and is what nearly everyone reading this is actually experiencing. {{R|warning|note=the mundane reading is the likely one and the wiki is not going to bury that under atmosphere}} | |||
The specific harm to guard against here is the one [[Affliction]] describes: a person told that their compulsion is an entity is a person given a reason to stop treating it as something they can act on. We have no evidence that framing has helped anyone and some that it has not. {{R|contested}} | |||
{{Sourcing | |||
| from = The inherited line, the [[Daemon]] Varieties material, and the matching principle set out under [[Affliction]]. | |||
| by = Gershon. | |||
| doubt = The selectivity claim — that succubi sort by kind where other Others do not — rests on the absence of counter-reports, and absence of reports is not evidence in a field where almost nobody reports anything. We hold no firsthand account. | |||
| wanted = An account of a succubus around someone whose difficulty was not sexual, which would break the matching principle and is worth more to us than another confirmation. | |||
}} | |||
== See also == | |||
[[Vrill]] proposes what is actually being taken: not the psyche as such but the vital force released under obsession, which that entry argues is the substance every class of Other is extracting by its own method. | |||
[[Category:Others]] | |||
[[Category:Afflictions]] | |||
Latest revision as of 23:00, 5 September 2026
| Succubus | |
|---|---|
| Class | Other — displaced; by most readings of the Daemon class |
| Dwells | close, and only where it has been admitted |
| Feeds on | libido; the psyche of the sexually frustrated and the sexually obsessed |
| Approach | the matching described under Affliction; rarely anything as formal as a bargain |
| Earliest account | ancient and continuous, in more traditions than we can list |
Consensus among us Real, common, and the clearest instance of the matching principle we hold. Whether it is a distinct class or a daemon of one appetite is unsettled.contested
inherited | |
Beings of pure libido. They seek out the sexually frustrated and sexually obsessed to feed on their psyche. inherited
The inherited line is short and correct. What it does not say is that the selectivity in it is the entire point.
The clearest case of the matching
Affliction holds that Others pair with people by kind, not by severity or by opportunity, and succubi are the sharpest evidence for it we have. They are not reported around the grieving, the enraged, the despairing or the merely lonely. They are reported around people whose difficulty is specifically sexual: the obsessed, the frustrated, those fixated on the organs themselves rather than on any person. unverified
A thing that fed on suffering in general would not sort like that. This one sorts, consistently, across traditions that had no contact with each other. contested
Whether that makes it a distinct class or simply a daemon of one appetite — the Varieties section of that entry says there are as many kinds of daemon as there are afflictions — is unsettled here and probably unimportant. The behaviour is the same and so is the mechanism. contested
The invitation
Succubi are rarely described as bargaining, which distinguishes them from djinn and fey and makes them worse rather than better. contested
The grievance holds that nothing from the Dark can take the material world, only be admitted to it — so something is being admitted here, and there is no negotiation, no terms and no moment anyone can point to. What is being obtained is the yes described under Affliction: given continuously, without any recognisable act of agreement, by someone in a condition where withholding it is not available. Obsession is not a state in which a person is choosing. unverified
This is why the entry sits under Category:Afflictions as well as under Others. Everything about a succubus encounter is the affliction mechanism running without the decorative apparatus of a deal. firsthand · Gershon
On writing about this at all
The ordinary account of everything on this page is compulsion, shame, isolation and the ordinary miseries of a person whose sexuality has become the whole of their inner life. That account requires no Other, explains the full record, and is what nearly everyone reading this is actually experiencing. ⚠ warning
The specific harm to guard against here is the one Affliction describes: a person told that their compulsion is an entity is a person given a reason to stop treating it as something they can act on. We have no evidence that framing has helped anyone and some that it has not. contested
See also
Vrill proposes what is actually being taken: not the psyche as such but the vital force released under obsession, which that entry argues is the substance every class of Other is extracting by its own method.