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Daemons are a class of immortal ethereal beings that are quasi-physical. They | {{Entity | ||
| name = Daemon | |||
| also known as = the vampiric; ''the quiet ones''; a hundred local names, none of them ours | |||
| class = [[Others|Other]] — immortal, ethereal, quasi-physical | |||
| dwells = the liminal space between the Otherworld and human reality | |||
| feeds on = the spiritual emanation of human suffering | |||
| approach = patient, and by way of a wound that was already there | |||
| first account = the Magi tablets, by inference only — no direct naming survives | |||
| cults = [[Elder Cults]], [[Gnostics]], and by denial the [[CIA]] | |||
| consensus = Real, common, and the ordinary explanation for most of what [[Psychiatry]] calls illness. We are not agreed on whether that last clause is doctrine or wishful thinking, and the argument is old. | |||
| tags = {{R|contested}} {{R|inherited}} | |||
}} | |||
Daemons are a class of immortal ethereal beings that are quasi-physical. They sit in a liminal space between the Otherworld and human reality. Lacking flesh and the ability to consume matter, they instead feast on the spiritual emanations put off by the suffering of human souls. {{R|inherited}} | |||
These dark spirits are held, in this circle, to be the fundamental cause of much — if not all — mental illness suffered by human beings. {{R|contested|note=this is the load-bearing claim of the entry and the least supported one}} Understand what that sentence is doing before you repeat it. It is the oldest position we inherited and the one we can least defend, and a seeker who says it to an outsider will be correctly identified as a crank. | |||
== Varieties == | == Varieties == | ||
== | Although all daemons are in a certain sense vampiric, this by no means makes them alike in their method of feeding. There are as many types of daemon as there are mental illnesses, and those daemons differ in temperament as much as a manic does from a non-verbal autistic. {{R|inherited}} | ||
A melancholic sadist daemon is a solitary creature, slowly whispering poison into the ear of a vulnerable girl until she cuts herself. It has nothing in common, beyond appetite, with the rowdy swarms of schizophrenic daemons that infest a young man and shout abuse at him until he loses touch with reality and sinks into an existence defined by suffering. {{R|inherited}} | |||
Nobody has produced a taxonomy of these that two cults agree on. The categories above are ours, they are borrowed, and they map suspiciously neatly onto a diagnostic manual written by people who do not believe in daemons at all. {{R|warning|note=circular reasoning lives here; be careful what you conclude from the neatness}} | |||
== Competing accounts == | |||
The disagreement is not about whether daemons exist. It is about whether they cause the wound or arrive at one. | |||
{{Account | |||
| by = Nigel | |||
| source = personal correspondence, passed on with permission | |||
| date = 1998 | |||
| tag = firsthand | |||
| text = It did not put anything into me. I want that written down, because every account I have read since says that they put something in. It found a hole that was already open and it stayed in the doorway. The difference matters. If they made the hole, we are prey. If they only find them, we can close them. | |||
| doubt = He had been three weeks without sleep by the time he wrote this, and says so himself in the same letter. | |||
}} | |||
{{Account | |||
| by = unsigned | |||
| source = [[Elder Cults|Elder Cult]] tome, quoted secondhand in two places that disagree on the wording | |||
| tag = inherited | |||
| text = The daemon is the author of the affliction and not its guest. Where it has fed, it has also cut. To say otherwise is to excuse it, and men who excuse it end by inviting it. | |||
| doubt = We have never seen this text. We have seen two people quote it, differently, and neither has seen it either. | |||
}} | |||
{{Account | |||
| by = a defector from the [[CIA]] programme, name withheld at their request | |||
| source = interview, three sessions | |||
| date = 2016 | |||
| tag = defector | |||
| text = Nobody in the programme used the word. The working assumption was that the phenomenon is real, that it is opportunistic rather than predatory, and that it can be induced by damaging the host first. That last part is what the budget was for. | |||
| doubt = A defector's account of an agency is shaped by the leaving. This one is unusually specific and unusually convenient for a wiki that already believed something like it. | |||
}} | |||
If you are keeping score: two of the three say the wound comes first. The oldest source says otherwise, and the oldest source is the one we cannot examine. | |||
== Association with cults == | |||
Although many deny their existence, some of the gnostic mystery cults hidden in the shadowy underworld are rumoured to be headed by powerful Archdaemons, who have organised people much as a shepherd organises a flock — subsisting off the suffering of the many poor souls who have fallen under their sway. {{R|unverified}} | |||
We have no account of an Archdaemon from anyone who claims to have met one. Every version of this reaches us at two removes or more, and the story is structurally identical each time, which is either corroboration or the signature of a story that travels well. {{R|contested}} | |||
== What the accounts have in common == | |||
The record here is thin and the wiki will not turn it into instruction. What follows is what recurs across the accounts we hold, set down as observation and nothing more. {{R|warning|note=a record of what people reported, not a method; none of it has ever been checked by us}} | |||
; Naming : The naming rituals in circulation are inherited and unverified, and several of them appear in the record immediately before a collapse. Whether reaching for a ritual caused the collapse, or the collapse was already underway by the time someone reached, no account we hold can say. | |||
; Sleep : Every firsthand account in our possession comes from someone who was badly short of it. That may be the door. It may equally be why the account is unreliable. Nobody has produced a case that separates the two. | |||
; Company : A daemon is described everywhere as patient, and solitary in its method. The single condition the sources agree is hostile to it is a second person who is paying attention. | |||
; Severance : [[Soma]] is described as cutting the connection entirely, with the hollowing set out under [[Hylics]] as the price. The wiki records two things about this and declines to weigh them: that some who took that path are still writing here, and that not one account of it is neutral. | |||
Nothing above is a cure. There is no account in our possession of a daemon being driven off — only of daemons that left. | |||
{{Sourcing | |||
| from = Two [[Elder Cults|Elder Cult]] tomes we have not seen directly, one defector interview across three sessions, roughly a decade of board archives, and one letter. | |||
| by = Assembled by Gershon from an earlier draft by an unnamed hand. The Varieties section is almost entirely inherited and reads like it. | |||
| doubt = The central claim — that daemons underlie mental illness generally — rests on inherited material and cannot be tested by us. The taxonomy mirrors a psychiatric one closely enough that it may simply be that manual, retold. The firsthand account is from a man who had not slept. | |||
| wanted = Any account of a daemon that fed and then left of its own accord. Any sighting of the Elder Cult tome quoted above, in the original. | |||
}} | |||
[[Category:Others]] | |||
[[Category:Reference entries]] | |||
Revision as of 12:00, 5 September 2026
| Daemon | |
|---|---|
| Also called | the vampiric; the quiet ones; a hundred local names, none of them ours |
| Class | Other — immortal, ethereal, quasi-physical |
| Dwells | the liminal space between the Otherworld and human reality |
| Feeds on | the spiritual emanation of human suffering |
| Approach | patient, and by way of a wound that was already there |
| Earliest account | the Magi tablets, by inference only — no direct naming survives |
| Claimed by | Elder Cults, Gnostics, and by denial the CIA |
Consensus among us Real, common, and the ordinary explanation for most of what Psychiatry calls illness. We are not agreed on whether that last clause is doctrine or wishful thinking, and the argument is old.contested
inherited | |
Daemons are a class of immortal ethereal beings that are quasi-physical. They sit in a liminal space between the Otherworld and human reality. Lacking flesh and the ability to consume matter, they instead feast on the spiritual emanations put off by the suffering of human souls. inherited
These dark spirits are held, in this circle, to be the fundamental cause of much — if not all — mental illness suffered by human beings. contested
Understand what that sentence is doing before you repeat it. It is the oldest position we inherited and the one we can least defend, and a seeker who says it to an outsider will be correctly identified as a crank.
Varieties
Although all daemons are in a certain sense vampiric, this by no means makes them alike in their method of feeding. There are as many types of daemon as there are mental illnesses, and those daemons differ in temperament as much as a manic does from a non-verbal autistic. inherited
A melancholic sadist daemon is a solitary creature, slowly whispering poison into the ear of a vulnerable girl until she cuts herself. It has nothing in common, beyond appetite, with the rowdy swarms of schizophrenic daemons that infest a young man and shout abuse at him until he loses touch with reality and sinks into an existence defined by suffering. inherited
Nobody has produced a taxonomy of these that two cults agree on. The categories above are ours, they are borrowed, and they map suspiciously neatly onto a diagnostic manual written by people who do not believe in daemons at all. ⚠ warning
Competing accounts
The disagreement is not about whether daemons exist. It is about whether they cause the wound or arrive at one.
If you are keeping score: two of the three say the wound comes first. The oldest source says otherwise, and the oldest source is the one we cannot examine.
Association with cults
Although many deny their existence, some of the gnostic mystery cults hidden in the shadowy underworld are rumoured to be headed by powerful Archdaemons, who have organised people much as a shepherd organises a flock — subsisting off the suffering of the many poor souls who have fallen under their sway. unverified
We have no account of an Archdaemon from anyone who claims to have met one. Every version of this reaches us at two removes or more, and the story is structurally identical each time, which is either corroboration or the signature of a story that travels well. contested
What the accounts have in common
The record here is thin and the wiki will not turn it into instruction. What follows is what recurs across the accounts we hold, set down as observation and nothing more. ⚠ warning
- Naming
- The naming rituals in circulation are inherited and unverified, and several of them appear in the record immediately before a collapse. Whether reaching for a ritual caused the collapse, or the collapse was already underway by the time someone reached, no account we hold can say.
- Sleep
- Every firsthand account in our possession comes from someone who was badly short of it. That may be the door. It may equally be why the account is unreliable. Nobody has produced a case that separates the two.
- Company
- A daemon is described everywhere as patient, and solitary in its method. The single condition the sources agree is hostile to it is a second person who is paying attention.
- Severance
- Soma is described as cutting the connection entirely, with the hollowing set out under Hylics as the price. The wiki records two things about this and declines to weigh them: that some who took that path are still writing here, and that not one account of it is neutral.
Nothing above is a cure. There is no account in our possession of a daemon being driven off — only of daemons that left.