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None of them are good: the one general claim the wiki makes about Others
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Others inhabit [[The Dark]]. To define them is folly - their origins are unknown, their actions contradictory, their goals incomprehensible. The few that reveal themselves to mankind do so out of apathy or worse, a desire to manipulate and control the masses. In turn, Cults have spent untold generations categorizing and researching these beings, which had lead to the creation of many myths and methods of their control.
Others inhabit [[The Dark]]. To define them is folly - their origins are unknown, their actions contradictory, their goals incomprehensible. The few that reveal themselves to mankind do so out of apathy or worse, a desire to manipulate and control the masses. In turn, Cults have spent untold generations categorizing and researching these beings, which had lead to the creation of many myths and methods of their control.


== Those that came before man ==
Three entries on this wiki open with the same five words. [[Djinn]], [[Faeries]] and [[Spirits]] all begin ''those that came before man'', written by different hands at different times, and none of them says what the formula means. It is the oldest phrase we have and it was inherited without its explanation. {{R|inherited}}
This is the reconstruction, and it is the closest thing to a motive that anything in [[The Dark]] has ever been given.
'''They were here first, and they were replaced.''' Whatever the material world was for before man, they had it, and they do not have it now. Man holds the position they held. That alone would produce resentment; what makes it unbearable is the second half. {{R|contested|note=a motive assembled from a repeated phrase and the existing Dark entry; no source states this outright}}
'''They can only reach the material world through us.''' Not around us, not instead of us — through. Every manifestation documented on this wiki, without exception, is routed through a human mind, a human body, a human place or a human belief. The [[The Dark|Dark]] entry has said as much for years without drawing the conclusion: they pine for what they cannot experience, and the only aperture into it is the species that took it from them. {{R|inherited}}
So they are bound to the thing that supplanted them, and they cannot get in without it. That is the grievance, and it is worse than hatred, because hatred does not require you to come back. {{R|unverified}}
Two things follow, and a recruit should carry both:
* '''It explains the bargains.''' A being that could simply take would not negotiate. Every deal recorded on this wiki — the [[Djinn|djinn's]] wish, the [[Faeries|fey]] bargain, the terms an [[Elder Cults|Elder Cult]] claims to have struck — exists because consent is load-bearing. They need something from us that cannot be seized, and the entire apparatus of temptation is a workaround for that limitation. {{R|contested}}
* '''It explains the contempt.''' The tone reported in nearly every account — the mockery, the theatrical patience, the sense of being condescended to by something that has come to ask you for a favour — is what dependency looks like from inside resentment. They are not visiting. They are petitioning, and they cannot forgive us for it.
Whether any of this is their account or merely one we find satisfying, we cannot say. It is a story that makes them legible, and stories that make the incomprehensible legible are the ones this wiki is supposed to distrust. {{R|warning|note=the most satisfying explanation on this wiki, which is the strongest argument against it}}


== None of them are good ==
== None of them are good ==

Revision as of 21:55, 5 September 2026

Others inhabit The Dark. To define them is folly - their origins are unknown, their actions contradictory, their goals incomprehensible. The few that reveal themselves to mankind do so out of apathy or worse, a desire to manipulate and control the masses. In turn, Cults have spent untold generations categorizing and researching these beings, which had lead to the creation of many myths and methods of their control.


Those that came before man

Three entries on this wiki open with the same five words. Djinn, Faeries and Spirits all begin those that came before man, written by different hands at different times, and none of them says what the formula means. It is the oldest phrase we have and it was inherited without its explanation. inherited


This is the reconstruction, and it is the closest thing to a motive that anything in The Dark has ever been given.

They were here first, and they were replaced. Whatever the material world was for before man, they had it, and they do not have it now. Man holds the position they held. That alone would produce resentment; what makes it unbearable is the second half. contested


They can only reach the material world through us. Not around us, not instead of us — through. Every manifestation documented on this wiki, without exception, is routed through a human mind, a human body, a human place or a human belief. The Dark entry has said as much for years without drawing the conclusion: they pine for what they cannot experience, and the only aperture into it is the species that took it from them. inherited


So they are bound to the thing that supplanted them, and they cannot get in without it. That is the grievance, and it is worse than hatred, because hatred does not require you to come back. unverified


Two things follow, and a recruit should carry both:

  • It explains the bargains. A being that could simply take would not negotiate. Every deal recorded on this wiki — the djinn's wish, the fey bargain, the terms an Elder Cult claims to have struck — exists because consent is load-bearing. They need something from us that cannot be seized, and the entire apparatus of temptation is a workaround for that limitation. contested
  • It explains the contempt. The tone reported in nearly every account — the mockery, the theatrical patience, the sense of being condescended to by something that has come to ask you for a favour — is what dependency looks like from inside resentment. They are not visiting. They are petitioning, and they cannot forgive us for it.

Whether any of this is their account or merely one we find satisfying, we cannot say. It is a story that makes them legible, and stories that make the incomprehensible legible are the ones this wiki is supposed to distrust. ⚠ warning


None of them are good

This is the one general claim the wiki is willing to make about Others, and it is made flatly, which is not this wiki's habit. The flatness is the claim. contested


Across every cult, every tome and every account held here, nothing out of The Dark has ever been described as good. There are the hostile, which are most of them. There are the indifferent, which are the rest — and which are mistaken for good every time an indifferent thing declines to hurt someone who expected it to. There is no third kind. inherited


Every generation produces a seeker who has found the exception. Every account of the exception, followed far enough, resolves into an Other that wanted something, or an Other that had not yet noticed them. We have no case that survives being followed. unverified


The consequence is the part recruits get wrong, so it is written here rather than left to be inferred: anything good in a person's life was put there by a person. There is no other source and no other supply. Whatever protection, kindness or beauty exists is manufactured locally, by people, at cost, and it is not replenished from anywhere. unverified